This is episode 42 of the Pam Sowder Podcast, with your host, Pam Sowder! Pam has over 2 decades of field and corporate experience and was voted one of the most influential women in direct selling. She helps match the daily needs of distributors to everyday life challenges.


This episode, Pam welcomes on Ronda and Ray Hartman — a fantastic couple who has been together for 28 amazing years! They’ve been in the industry of network marketing since 2000 and have been with It Works since 2011. Within 9 short months they reached the top position of Ambassador Diamond!


Pam has an amazing and insightful conversation with Ronda and Ray in this episode. They talk all about how they originally got into network marketing, how they gained (and continued) their momentum for the nearly 19 years they’ve been in the industry for, and how they believe they’ve achieved success with It Works. Ronda and Ray also give their tips and insight on how they approach people they meet in passing and share the opportunity of It Works with them, what they would do differently in the industry if they could start again with all the knowledge they have now, and their recommendations for those in the industry who are hungry for the same success! Tune in to hear it al!


Key Takeaways

[:31] About today’s episode and guests!

[1:44] Why did Ronda originally decide to get into network marketing?

[4:00] What drove Ronda to match her income in just three months back when she first started in the industry?

[5:00] What gave Ronda the inclination in 2011 to switch companies in industry?

[6:23] How Ronda reached Ambassador Diamond in 9 months.

[7:30] What has been Ray’s role in this industry with Rhonda?

[9:15] How does Ray lead up to the conversation of sharing the opportunity he has with It Works to strangers?

[11:22] What life is like for Ray and Ronda on a daily basis.

[13:00] What’s the first thing Ray does in the morning right after he gets up?

[14:18] What Ronda’s morning is like!

[15:24] What Ronda has learned about the industry and what she would tell her younger self about the industry if she could go back in time!

[17:43] Ronda speaks to those who hunger for more in the industry.

[19:56] What does Ronda do differently now than she did in the past?

[21:49] Pam and Ronda talk self-worth.

[23:32] What Ray has observed in the industry in the last 20 years and why he thinks it is especially booming right now.

[26:43] Where Ray thinks this industry is headed.

[28:46] Where Ray sees It Works headed.

[29:56] What does ‘momentum’ in this industry mean to Ray?

[31:47] What should everyone do to be successful in this business?

[34:19] What does Ronda mean by, “Just do it?”

[37:30] When Ray thinks about where their lives are at right now, does he see any slowing down in the future?

[39:24] Ray leave listeners with some final words of wisdom.

[41:30] How does Ronda feel when she listens to Ray talk about their business, lives, and words of advice to others? Ronda also offers up her own nuggets of wisdom.

[45:00] How Ronda remains humble while progressing upwards in this business.


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