This is episode 26 of the Pam Sowder Podcast, with your host, Pam Sowder! Pam has over 2 decades of field and corporate experience and was voted one of the most influential women in direct selling. She helps match the daily needs of distributors to everyday life challenges.


Today, Pam has on two amazing guests: Stefani and Joel Dunn. Stefani and Joel are Black Diamonds with It Works! Global (which means for six consecutive months they earned over $100,000 a month!) Back in 2009, they were dealing with the stress of bankruptcy and losing their business, but after discovering It Works, they quickly became invigorated for an exciting, new, profitable venture. They now have the financial freedom to enjoy life without worry and often give back to those in need.


In this episode, Stefani and Joel share their story from their lowest point to their highest point (today), they reflect on their journey and offer pieces of wisdom they wish they had known when they were getting started, and also list some of the important attributes that make a person successful in this industry. They also share many other nuggets of wisdom, what a typical explosive business day looks like for them, and their words of encouragement going into 2019.


Key Takeaways

[:31] About Pam’s guests today, Stefani and Joel Dunn.

[1:51] Pam welcomes Joel and Stefani to the podcast and Joel tells their story and how they got to this place of abundance and success.

[3:51] Joel and Stefani reflect on their emotions and how they felt prior to It Works.

[6:44] Why they love network marketing and direct sales.

[8:28] How Stefani helps people get started in this business.

[11:39] When Joel looks back on the last few years, he lists some of the attributes he sees in his wife that make her so successful.

[14:09] Stefani lists some of the attributes that make her husband, Joel, so successful in the business.

[18:17] Why Stefani and Joel are so loyal to It Works! Global.

[22:17] Stefani’s advice to mothers looking to get started in this industry.

[26:25] Joel’s advice to men who are unsure about supporting their wives or girlfriends in pursuing this business.

[29:27] What a typical explosive business day looks like for Stefani.

[34:14] Joel gives his coaching insight into the pitfalls people often fall into and how to get sales.

[39:42] Stefani offers some words of encouragement to just get started.

[42:50] Joel also offers some words of encouragement.

[36:25] Is 2019 going to be the best year yet? Yes!


Mentioned in this Episode

It Works

Joel and Stefani Dunns Website

The 5 Love Languages of Children: The Secret to Loving Children Effectively, by Gary Chapman and Ross Campbell

Joel Dunns Podcast


Tony Robbins


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